Showing posts with label fiat. Show all posts
Showing posts with label fiat. Show all posts

Saturday, June 25, 2016

Future Alfa Romeo Coupe???


These were sent to me by a reader from Europe.

Not sure what they are really.
It's obviously an Alfa. And it has 2 doors.

Otherwise who knows.
It's also obviously not a production model because of the lack of real side mirrors.

A few years ago the car that was going to share a platform with the Miata was going to be an Alfa.
But since Sergio had said that "no Alfa will be built outside of Italy", that couldn't work out.
So it became the Fiat 124 we have now.

I just wonder if this was a design for that still born Alfa model.
But Sergio had also said a sport coupe/convertible was still coming from Alfa. (NOT based on the Miata)
So this could be a preview of that...

What do you think??

Wednesday, February 17, 2016

2017 Fiat 124 Spider European price

The European press is reporting a 34 000 Euros price for the new Fiat Convertible.
Which is about 4000 Euros more than the equivalent 160HP version of the Mazda Miata.
(A cheaper, less powerful version is also available over there)
The Lusso model would be 2500 Euros more.

In the US, the Miata starts at $25 700. Using the same math, it would put the Fiat at around $30 000.

I think that is a lot.
I am really not sure Fiat can charge much more than the Miata over here.
It doesn't have such a great image to begin with...

Of course, it does depend on equipment etc... And how Fiat wants to position the car in the market.



Wednesday, January 27, 2016

Is Sergio Marchionne killing Chrysler?

I like Fiat.
I really like Chrysler. (Poor old Chrysler. You have to feel bad.)
After a string of dead beat owners, they now have this guy...

His recent comment sound like bad news to me.

First, he's been trying to force some stupid alliance with GM. Over and over.
Even after they said "no way" repeatedly .

Then, just a few days ago, he blamed the designers (The designers!!!) for the Chrysler 200 inability to get a "recommended" rating from Consumer Reports.
By saying :"The Sonata has a similar problem (rear seat entry), we copied the entry point of the rear seat, dummies"
Therefore insulting both Chrysler and Hyundai designers.
So I guess he, the big boss, had nothing to say about it while it was being designed, tested, re-tested.  Checked, re-checked.... He just wasn't around...

Now he is also "realigning" the North American production capacity.
Which means more (only?) pick ups and SUVs, and killing the Dodge Dart and Chrysler 200.

The Dart has been poorly received since it came out.
But not the 200.
He also keeps saying crazy stuff, like he's going to find a "partner" to produce these 2 models. (The ones he is canceling??) Where? Who?
Does that mean we will be getting Darts and 200s from China soon?
(The assembly line where the 200 is built will soon being converted to built pick up trucks.)

So basically, he is giving up on cars all together. Since we hear nothing about a new Chrysler 300.
And he is killing the 200 and won't be replacing it.
Soon Chrysler will only have one model: The new pacifica Minivan.
And Dodge will basically have nothing.

Amazing how pretty much everyone else has now figured out how to generate money from successful compact and mid sized sedans .The market is far from dead.
(Camry, Accord, Fusion, Sonata, Optima, Civic, Corolla, Focus, Elantra etc...)

It looks like he is trying to kill both Chrysler and Dodge and put everything into Jeep and Ram trucks.
Which is really sad...

As for the "always late' Alfa Romeo return to the US?
After all these promises of an all new full line up, now we get more bad news.
Although the Giulia will go in production in a couple of months (I guess it was too late to kill it), it won't be joined by the larger sedan they were talking about any time soon.
Instead, we'll get even more SUVs. One in 2017. And more later.

So basically, Chrysler's future is trucks, trucks, trucks. And probably NO Chrysler.


Sorry about the rant.
Marchionne might actually be a nice guy to have a beer with. But his short term vision for this great old company is a disaster.

Claiming that low fuel prices are "permanent" is idiotic.
He also uses the word "permanent" to describe the "shift towards SUVs and pick-ups".
If there is one thing car companies need to learn from the past, is that trends do not last forever.
Putting ALL your eggs in the same basket is a huge mistake.

Someone with such short sighted thinking should never run a car company.
Or anything else.




One more time, Chrysler is on the verge of death.... Because of one guy.

Thursday, November 19, 2015

AutoShow Quick note: Mazda VS. Fiat


I must be in the minority, but I do like the Fiat version better than the Miata.
I was a big fan of the previous version Miata. (Test drove it twice)

But I cannot warm up to the current (more aggressive) design.
So I do like the Fiat "clone" better. (except when compared to the still stunning 1966 original Pininfarina design)
It does have a different design, and the front is a bit longer.
Which I like.

The interior is exactly the same. But you can order this brown color. (I think the Miata now comes in black only. Except for that limited "launch edition")

It was also really fun watching all the long/boring PR BS introducing the car. And its "Italian heart".
The whole thing was about being Italian etc... Never, of course, mentioning the Mazda link. Ever.

It should also end up being the most reliable Fiat ever made. (Since it is built in Japan alongside the Miata).
Another plus...

What do you think?

Wednesday, September 30, 2015

2017 Fiat 124 VS. 2016 Mazda Miata


Just though I would try to compare the two.
From these pix we have all seen these last couple of days.

At first (from grainy phone pix, I know) , they do seem quite different.
The hood of the Fiat seems quite a bit longer, taller.  Which I personally like.
So does the trunk. There might be a new crease line running along the side (Hard to see, but it could be an attempt to match the original design)

I haven't been a big fan of the new Miata, so the Fiat does look better to me.
I also really like the silver finish around the windshield.

But inside... It's just too bad. Both cars look exactly the same.
I mean, the new Miata does have a really nice interior. But I really wish Fiat had spent just a little bit of money to make their model  more special. Come on....



Here is the original convertible version of the old Fiat 124.
The Pininfarina design still looks fantastic.

You can see the new one is just a Miata trying very hard to look a little bit like this.
Maybe it'll work.
(We'll definitely have to wait for better pictures)

What do you think?
(You can take the poll on the top left of this page.)

Monday, June 22, 2015

2016 Fiat 500




I posted a couple of pictures of the revised Fiat 500 for 2016.
Now we can see the interior. Hard to see if only the dashboard is new.
But that door handle does look pretty familiar.
So this might not be an all new interior.

I guess Fiat is saving some cash by not giving the 8 year old 500 an all new design.

Wednesday, June 17, 2015

2016 Fiat 500


As you can see, after over 7 years, the 500 won't be all new.
Outside, it is the usual "mid-cycle refresh " with new bumpers and lights. Front and rear.
We can also see the all new dashboard inside. Finally incorporating a screen.

Not sure about engines, but I haven't heard anything new.

So, not all new, but might be worth waiting a few months if you are considering a Fiat 500.

Friday, June 05, 2015

2016 Fiat 500

Just when you think a new one would be ready (After all, it's been around since 2007), we're not.

All we are getting is a new front, rear, lights, and dashboard/console.

Not sure if this is an illustration or the real thing. But that front end with the weird headlights is NOT an improvement. Either do something all new or don't ruin it.

This is kind of weird...

Monday, April 20, 2015

Fiat Ottimo Cross "Concept"





This was also shown at the Shanghai auto show.
The Ottimo is basically a hatchback version of our Dodge Dart for the Chinese market. With its own front end, and a Fiat name.
This raised up version is the equivalent of what VW offers with their Alltrack models.
And it does look really nice. I mean this would make a great version of the Dart. Why not?
It's not like they would need to design an all new car. 
Here is the "regular" version of the Ottimo.